<span class="highlight">Stone</span> Guards? Trapeze style from car to camper/caravan
Submitted: Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 09:31
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time waster
Last year I posted about making a horizontal
stone guard and testing it out on our
Kimberley trip GRR/Tanami. As on our previous camper I made an upright one that lent forward made from shade cloth, but on our
birdsville trip the rear of the Hilux had little paint left on the rear tailgate.
With a change of vehicle and camper (new hilux/jayco eagle outback) and our
Kimberley trip planned I did not want the same
stone damage so set about making a universal trapeze
stone guard.
I made the brackets that fit to the A frame adjustable and just bolt on, no drilling or welding. They clear brake wires and water pipes/wires and the steel bar at the rear of the car that the shock cord attaches to. They bolt down under the tow ball/tregg hitch with a length of canvas on to fill
the gap where it fits to the car. The trapeze is made out of truck mesh with the shock cord running through in pockets and the rear is attached to the A frame via two small D shackles, so it is easily removed when the roads turn to mud.
So on our 10,000km trip from
Adelaide,
gregory np,grr,
cape leveque,tanami and the
gawler rangers the
stone guard held up to everything that was thrown at it and no tears or rips. Damage to the rear of the car was reduced to a couple of small chips, even the A frame had very little damage as the trapeze goes under that. Since then we have done many small trips and it has proved a great investment saver.
A friend has asked me to make him one up and got me thinking would there be a call for this type of
stone guard or do most people have there own solutions.
I am not technical enough to post photo's but can email some if anyone is interested.
Thanks.
Christian.
Reply By: Member - John - Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 09:46
Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 09:46
Chritian, can you email me a couple of pics? jlsulli@bigpond.com
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Follow Up By: Member - shane (SA) - Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 10:30
Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 10:30
i'll grab one of those emails to please.
asgift (at) bigpond.com replace (at) with @ no spaces.
thanks, shane.
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Reply By: Member - John - Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 09:48
Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 09:48
Ooops, Christian........... should have spell checked before posting
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Reply By: Member - Dick (Int) - Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 09:48
Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 09:48
Christian, could you email me some
pic's to dick@petraguna.com
Thanks
Dick
in Jakarta
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 10:22
Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 10:22
Christian,
A very ballanced report of your personal experiences mate.
I especially like your mention of easy removal "when the road turns to mud". It is very important for other people to understand that what is good in some circumstances, can "turn to crap" in other ones.
I still have the one I made up and took off after being caked in mud on a muddy portion of the
Birdsville Track.
Mine also attaches via "D" shackes and shock cord running through a seam on each side.
For folks wishing to make their own, a normal household sewing machine fitted with nothing more than "jean grade" needle and thread, will do the job of sewing seams in the shade cloth.
Shock cord is available at most hardware stores.
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Follow Up By: time waster - Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 10:50
Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 10:50
I used shade cloth on the first camper trailer with a foam padded steel frame but found rocks tore holes in the shade cloth, So thats why I used the truck mesh on the trapeze
guard( no holes in it yet )witch is much stronger but it needs to sewn with an industrial machine after bending many h/d needles I took it in to have it sewn.
In the mesh I have seven shocks cords in pockets running across attaching to the car.
Thanks.
Christian.
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Reply By: Member - Mick T (QLD) - Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 10:42
Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 10:42
Hi Christian..would like an e-mail with some photos too...
mickandchelle@aapt.net.au
cheers
Mick T
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Reply By: revkev - Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 11:32
Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 11:32
hi chistian.
could you email me some pics as
well to chezkev@dodo.com.au
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Reply By: Member - Phillip R (VIC) - Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 11:41
Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 11:41
Hi Christian
Would you please send me the photo's to june43@optusnet.com.au
Thanks.
Phil.
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 12:23
Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 12:23
I made a trapeze type
guard for my Jackaroo/Campomatic rig a few years back - in my view you are on the money - it is the best option for car protection, but a little awkward to live with at times (when needing to get into the back of the Jack while on the road, we had to clamber over the trapeze). In my view the trapeze employs the desirable attribute of allowing the stones to "continue on their merry way" as opposed to trying to stop them (or deflect them at a harsh angle). I also use a couple of
conveyor belt type
stone flaps under the camper to deflect stones away from vitals under there.
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Reply By: Wayne M(QLD) - Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 12:51
Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 12:51
Hi Christian..would like an e-mail with some photos too
bart@scoopmail.com.au
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Reply By: Shaker - Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 13:35
Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 13:35
Here are some ideas too, but if you scroll to the bottom of the page there are a couple of pics of the "trapeze style" I made for my Track Eagle CT. The full width canvas flap on the vehicle blows up & fills
the gap between the "trapeze" & the rear of the vehicle.
Stone Guards
The other thing that the trapeze style guards do is direct most of the dust under the trailer as
well, which seems to keep it away from the rear door of the vehicle.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 13:38
Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 13:38
In the
pic the
grey "trapeze" on
mine looks like canvas, it is what they call truck mesh, which is used for covering loads, stronger & better than shade cloth.
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Reply By: pheonix - Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 13:46
Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 13:46
Hi Christian,
Any chance of pictures as
well. I'm going up that way next year with an eagle and prado. Trying to minimise damage.
gbell2@optusnet.com.au
Cheers
Graeme
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Follow Up By: time waster - Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 21:04
Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 21:04
Let me know if you got me mods to the eagle
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Follow Up By: pheonix - Tuesday, Sep 18, 2007 at 09:27
Tuesday, Sep 18, 2007 at 09:27
Nope haven't got them yet.
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Follow Up By: time waster - Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 07:45
Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 07:45
Have sent again this morning if no go send me a direct email and can reply.
Cheers Christian.
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Reply By: Fragle_Rock (VIC) - Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 13:58
Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 13:58
Hi Christian, also interested in your pics
breddy@captureplan.com.au
Thanks
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 17:19
Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 17:19
I made a trapeze out of standard shadecloth with the edges being held up by standard occy straps. It was fitted above the drawbar and coupling. It survived 19,000 km trip
Sydney-
Broome-
Darwin-
Cooktown-
Sydney. There wasn't a mark on the vehicle rear or trailer.
I still have it, but I don't have any photos of it in place.
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Reply By: Member - John R (TAS) - Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 17:45
Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 17:45
Could you please email me some pictures also
jrich56@bigpond.net.au
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Reply By: japmel - Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 20:09
Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 20:09
Christian,
Could you please email me the photos too.
jap.md.harris@bigpond.com.au
Many thanks
Regards
John
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Reply By: Muzzgit [WA] - Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 20:33
Sunday, Sep 16, 2007 at 20:33
Maybe, just maybe, someone who receives these photo's could upload them on this thread. With permission from the rightfull owner of coarse.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 09:14
Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 09:14
There is a link in my reply here showing photos of the one I made, it is shameless copy of the Adventure Camper Trailers one.
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Reply By: k9 - Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 05:31
Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 05:31
Hi Christian
Could you, please, also send me some pictures?
Thanks
steve_austeng@hotmail.com
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Reply By: youngharry52 - Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 13:28
Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 13:28
Hiya Christian,
Would you please email copies to :
youngharry52 (at) hotmail.com
Thank you in advance,
Regards
Chris
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Reply By: Member - shane (SA) - Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 19:29
Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 19:29
thanks for the email, a question though, what stops the shadecloth from going back down the bull strap? it looks to me the bull straps are knotted at one end then put through the pockets to the bar behind the forby, it does not seem to be anything on the front edge, as in a bar or some thing.
cheers, shane.
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Follow Up By: time waster - Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 20:05
Monday, Sep 17, 2007 at 20:05
It is not made from shade cloth as there is no strength in this material. I use truck mesh which is much stronger and does not concertina against itself. There are six shock cords that only run half way down the mesh which keeps it tort. Yes, you are right if it was made out of shade cloth it would not work.
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Reply By: Member - Dalb (SA) - Tuesday, Sep 18, 2007 at 11:23
Tuesday, Sep 18, 2007 at 11:23
Christian
I would like to see the photos too.
brian.
dalby@awbc.com.au
Many thanks,
Dalb
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Reply By: dougie 41 - Thursday, Sep 20, 2007 at 10:16
Thursday, Sep 20, 2007 at 10:16
Hi Christian,
Would appreciate some photos of trapeze set up.
Please e-mail to douglas.albon@bigpond.com
Thanks Doug
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Reply By: gottabjoaken - Thursday, Sep 20, 2007 at 13:31
Thursday, Sep 20, 2007 at 13:31
ok, guys.
with all the interest in this sort of
stone guard that you have shown, who is going to make one for me to fit LC100 with H/R hitch and weight distribution bars?
Seriously...
How much will it cost?
I could fit one, but don't have the equipment or skills to manufacture it.
Don't all rush at once, and I would prefer to be the improved version rather than a first attempt... (being fussy, I guess)
Please contact me via email . gottabjoaken squigglything yahoo.com
Ken
gottabjoaken
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Follow Up By: time waster - Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 07:05
Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 07:05
Hi Ken,
I would say it should still fit with the h/r you will just need to hitch up and lift up the bars before connecting the trapeze.
Will email some photo's through with pricing.
There also will be two to fit trailer widths of 7' and 7'6"
Thanks.
Christian.
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Reply By: Skippy In The GU - Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 08:04
Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 08:04
Hi Christian,
could I have a look too
reno62@internode.on.net
Thank You
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Reply By: gottabjoaken - Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 11:28
Friday, Sep 21, 2007 at 11:28
Sorry Christian,
something wrong with my Yahoo email address.
Please use khallpatch squigglything
hotmail.com
thanks
Ken
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